Comments on: Late night thoughts on the current crisis https://windypundit.com/2025/02/late-night-thoughts-on-the-current-crisis/ Classical liberalism, criminal laws, the war on drugs, economics, free speech, technology, photography, sex work, cats, and whatever else comes to mind. Mon, 19 Jan 2026 20:41:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.1 By: Humble Talent https://windypundit.com/2025/02/late-night-thoughts-on-the-current-crisis/#comment-36377 Mon, 19 Jan 2026 20:41:59 +0000 https://windypundit.com/?p=16617#comment-36377 I actually came to see if you’d posted on what’s happening in Minneapolis, and read through some of the backlog I’d missed instead.

Taking aside that this aged like milk, I’m only responding because you touched on one of my favorite topics, the 25th amendment: “Nor do I think removal under the 25th Amendment is a possibility, not with the sycophants Trump has brought on board.”

The 25th amendment is a smart person’s stupid talking point. It was brought in after President Harrison died 31 days after taking office in 1841 and when Woodrow Wilson had a debilitating stroke in 1919. While congress managed to muddle through those cases, there was a concern that the muddling they did wasn’t actually constitutional, so the 25th was devised. The 25th was supposed to give clarity on succession, and control against dead people or vegetables.

And you can see that in the process:

In order for section 4 of the 25th to be invoked, JD Vance would have to decide that President Trump was unable to discharge the duties and powers of his office, and to deal with that, he would have to gather a majority of the Cabinet and go to war with Trump.

He would have to produce a letter to that effect, and deliver it to Steve Scalise and John Thune. That would be enough to actually remove Trump from office for about 34 seconds. That’s how long it would take Trump to scribble furiously on a cocktail napkin that no, he wasn’t incapacitated, crumple it up, and fling it at the faces of Scalise and Thune. Then he would be President again.

That is, unless Vance and the Cabinet leaders wrote a letter to Scalise and Thune within four days that basically says: “No, I really mean it, this dude is cray cray”. And that would start a process – Both houses of congress would be required to assemble within 48 hours and hold a vote in both the house and the senate. Removal of the President would require a two-thirds majority vote in each, and if that couldn’t be achieved, Trump would continue to be President.

You might notice that it’s harder to remove a president under the 25th than it is to impeach a president. Impeachment only requires a simple 50%+1 majority in the house and has the benefit of not requiring the VP and half of cabinet to go rogue. One could argue that impeachment requires a high crime or misdemeanor when the 25th doesn’t, but that didn’t stop the Democrats the first couple of times they tried to impeach. The reality is that these things end up ultimately as political popularity contests, and Trump is popular enough among Republicans that it doesn’t matter how many sycophants trump has in his cabinet, Dems just don’t have the votes.

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