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		By: kia marie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 05:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i shot with robert bob kozel in march 09. i stayed in his home for 18 days...i heard know and saw things there that should not of happened. i was 23 then. after being there two weeks, i have two photographers that i saught refuge to because of his possesive behavior and his behavior towards me in general. i believe in a lot of ways he was a victim, but i also believe that that in bobs head, he honestly thought he was doing what he was doing out of pleasure for everyone, except, only did he realize with me, i did not like his behavior, what he was doing and saying. for Example. i know this seventeen year old girl. i net her twice. how could it be good that he convinced her to do girl on girl shoots with her two lesbian friends while i was in the computer room on model mayhem. even though they were only in bra and panties he was borderline. and also did you know he got her drunk to take those photos which i have personally seen. even the two lesbian friends came went over drank and got  drunk. only Ome was of legal age. also did you know that all the pain killers he was on for his hip and leg he offered to them and they took. he offered them to me too. he was heavily into web can sex. he showed me several videos one in particular that he let a previous model do on his computer to a male model. and i was there when he had his court date and they post ponde it due to lack of evidence so he said. he tried many times to get of to let him take me to victoria secrets and to dinner but i declined each time. bob is the kind of man that will give and do for a woman as long as he thinks or is getting what he wants in return. i know that because he told of the story of his affair. a part of me believes he means good but the other part of me is finding that hard to believe when he knows right from wrong. i do hope he figures that out before it figures him if it has not already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i shot with robert bob kozel in march 09. i stayed in his home for 18 days&#8230;i heard know and saw things there that should not of happened. i was 23 then. after being there two weeks, i have two photographers that i saught refuge to because of his possesive behavior and his behavior towards me in general. i believe in a lot of ways he was a victim, but i also believe that that in bobs head, he honestly thought he was doing what he was doing out of pleasure for everyone, except, only did he realize with me, i did not like his behavior, what he was doing and saying. for Example. i know this seventeen year old girl. i net her twice. how could it be good that he convinced her to do girl on girl shoots with her two lesbian friends while i was in the computer room on model mayhem. even though they were only in bra and panties he was borderline. and also did you know he got her drunk to take those photos which i have personally seen. even the two lesbian friends came went over drank and got  drunk. only Ome was of legal age. also did you know that all the pain killers he was on for his hip and leg he offered to them and they took. he offered them to me too. he was heavily into web can sex. he showed me several videos one in particular that he let a previous model do on his computer to a male model. and i was there when he had his court date and they post ponde it due to lack of evidence so he said. he tried many times to get of to let him take me to victoria secrets and to dinner but i declined each time. bob is the kind of man that will give and do for a woman as long as he thinks or is getting what he wants in return. i know that because he told of the story of his affair. a part of me believes he means good but the other part of me is finding that hard to believe when he knows right from wrong. i do hope he figures that out before it figures him if it has not already.</p>
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		By: John Knutton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What an interesting article! I&#039;ve really enjoyed reading your blog. Please check out a favorite blog of mine - Professor Leonard Birdsong, a law professor and Harvard Law grad, based out of Orlando, Florida. http://birdsongslaw.com

Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting article! I&#8217;ve really enjoyed reading your blog. Please check out a favorite blog of mine &#8211; Professor Leonard Birdsong, a law professor and Harvard Law grad, based out of Orlando, Florida. <a href="http://birdsongslaw.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://birdsongslaw.com</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		By: Rachel Jay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark, while sometimes I agree that the sex offender for life status is a bit extreme, I don&#039;t think it is in Bob Kozel&#039;s case.

You see, when he was arrested in the article I linked to my blog, he was out on bail and going thru court processes for 19 counts of possession of child porn.  In fact, I have the DuPage County case number for that, courtesy of a friend of a friend.

It was not, however, in his bail agreement that he not photograph anyone, let alone minors or kids, so it appears he continued shooting.  I got him removed from MM twice after his first arrest... though I have a feeling we don&#039;t have to worry about him joining MM anymore.

This wasn&#039;t a one-time-made-a-mistake-didn&#039;t-check-ID&#039;s kinda thing.  He&#039;s been at this for quite some time it appears, and very well deserves what he&#039;s going to get.

I have a bunch more links and info on Bob, and plan on writing a lengthy blog about him at some point soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, while sometimes I agree that the sex offender for life status is a bit extreme, I don&#8217;t think it is in Bob Kozel&#8217;s case.</p>
<p>You see, when he was arrested in the article I linked to my blog, he was out on bail and going thru court processes for 19 counts of possession of child porn.  In fact, I have the DuPage County case number for that, courtesy of a friend of a friend.</p>
<p>It was not, however, in his bail agreement that he not photograph anyone, let alone minors or kids, so it appears he continued shooting.  I got him removed from MM twice after his first arrest&#8230; though I have a feeling we don&#8217;t have to worry about him joining MM anymore.</p>
<p>This wasn&#8217;t a one-time-made-a-mistake-didn&#8217;t-check-ID&#8217;s kinda thing.  He&#8217;s been at this for quite some time it appears, and very well deserves what he&#8217;s going to get.</p>
<p>I have a bunch more links and info on Bob, and plan on writing a lengthy blog about him at some point soon.</p>
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		By: Mark Draughn		</title>
		<link>https://windypundit.com/2009/09/the_sex_crimes_of_children/#comment-1827</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t vouch for any of that but...ick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t vouch for any of that but&#8230;ick.</p>
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		By: Slaute		</title>
		<link>https://windypundit.com/2009/09/the_sex_crimes_of_children/#comment-1826</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am not condoning sexual promiscuity and children, for that matter teens and adults as well, need to be protected from violent and sexually dangerous persons.  But current and pending sex offender legislation and laws are producing insane legal outcomes in consensual sex and sexual activity cases historically left to parenting.

Parents, warn your children, teens and young adults!!  What you may think is normal underage and developmental consensual sexual exploration and learning, which historically was left to parents to correct and teach is currently grounds for very serious felony sex offender convictions, registration as a sex offender for life as young as 14, and forced sex offender &quot;treatment&quot;!!  And these cases, even when consensual between underage peers are relentlessly prosecuted despite insane judicial outcomes, ruined lives of innocent kids, teens and young adults, and ruined families of these innocent kids/teens/young adults.

Worse yet, Government sanctioned Sex Offender &quot;Treatment&quot; Programs, are barbaric and abusive!!  These programs include the use of:

Plethysmographs - a metalized ring is strapped around a “male” juvenile’s genitals (there is no such devise for females) and they are forced to listen to/watch pornography including deviant sexual activity such as violent rape!  This barbaric and abusive device and recordings are designed to measure any signs of arousal and the juvenile is then forced to try and masturbate afterwards.

Masturbatory Satiation – juvenile males as young as 12 are forced to masturbate over and over and over while listening to/viewing pornographic images/recordings, including deviant sexual activity such as violent rape.

Arousal Reconditioning – Originally developed in the early to mid-1900s to convert homosexuals to heterosexuals.  Attempts to eliminate sexual feelings by pairing them with boredom, pain, or unpleasantness. In effect, assumes that sexuality can be changed through “punishment” such as electric shock therapy.

How many people, including kids as young as 14, will we allow to be prosecuted, incarcerated, subjected to barbaric and abusive treatment and then forced to register as Sex Offenders for the rest of their lives before we bring an end to this insanity?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not condoning sexual promiscuity and children, for that matter teens and adults as well, need to be protected from violent and sexually dangerous persons.  But current and pending sex offender legislation and laws are producing insane legal outcomes in consensual sex and sexual activity cases historically left to parenting.</p>
<p>Parents, warn your children, teens and young adults!!  What you may think is normal underage and developmental consensual sexual exploration and learning, which historically was left to parents to correct and teach is currently grounds for very serious felony sex offender convictions, registration as a sex offender for life as young as 14, and forced sex offender &#8220;treatment&#8221;!!  And these cases, even when consensual between underage peers are relentlessly prosecuted despite insane judicial outcomes, ruined lives of innocent kids, teens and young adults, and ruined families of these innocent kids/teens/young adults.</p>
<p>Worse yet, Government sanctioned Sex Offender &#8220;Treatment&#8221; Programs, are barbaric and abusive!!  These programs include the use of:</p>
<p>Plethysmographs &#8211; a metalized ring is strapped around a “male” juvenile’s genitals (there is no such devise for females) and they are forced to listen to/watch pornography including deviant sexual activity such as violent rape!  This barbaric and abusive device and recordings are designed to measure any signs of arousal and the juvenile is then forced to try and masturbate afterwards.</p>
<p>Masturbatory Satiation – juvenile males as young as 12 are forced to masturbate over and over and over while listening to/viewing pornographic images/recordings, including deviant sexual activity such as violent rape.</p>
<p>Arousal Reconditioning – Originally developed in the early to mid-1900s to convert homosexuals to heterosexuals.  Attempts to eliminate sexual feelings by pairing them with boredom, pain, or unpleasantness. In effect, assumes that sexuality can be changed through “punishment” such as electric shock therapy.</p>
<p>How many people, including kids as young as 14, will we allow to be prosecuted, incarcerated, subjected to barbaric and abusive treatment and then forced to register as Sex Offenders for the rest of their lives before we bring an end to this insanity?</p>
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