I was going to write something about Hiu Lui Ng’s death from untreated cancer while in the custody of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, but Scott Greenfield beat me to it.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: The undesirables who hate American values are already here, and they work for Homeland Security.
M says
Perhaps this man with cancer could have recieved treatment back home. But the illegal immigrant debate is about alot more than you think. And it will continue to be a sore spot for many. All I know is that where I live the illegals come every year and they work…good for them. Their kids on the other hand join gangs and steal, rob, rape and murder. 50% Hispanic population 97% hispanic crime where I live. If throwing them back over the fence means they take the 2nd (criminal) generation with them then so be it.
You dont need a census report to take a look at whats going on in my community. Non-Hispanic family A has 2 kids and makes middle class income, they thus pay a tax amount that sustains the childrens education costs. Illegal Hispanic family B doesnt stop breeding, 8 kids later they survive on agricultural wages and hand-outs. Time to send them to school….who pays for that…Family A of course. And yes I know that Americans also fall into this poor over breeding classification, the difference is that I see migrant day cares, and a $billions of dollars in migrant hand-outs and special programs which give them even more help, So I’ll drop that portion of my argument when I see an equal number of “Poor White American” handouts.
This debate isnt about illegals as much as its about culture and imparticular the Hispanic Culture. A culture of Machismo, a culture that honors the country of origin and seeks to cling to the way of life that was left behind no matter who it harms here. I don’t owe them anything yet they continue to act as if I do. Their failures are somehow my fault? La Raza…The Race? Whats that all about? Last I checked hispanic was not a race but a nationality. So many of you toss out “racist” the moment someone challenges you. Lets face it that term is over used and no longer has meaning with an increasing number of Americans who happen to have an opinion and dare I say it…real world experience with the precious Hispanic Culture.
I assume that you would call me a racist for demanding that a group of people who have segregated themselves with Hispanic Chambers of Commerce, La Raza, Migrant Councils etc be held accountable as a group that they themselves defined and created. Interesting that hispanics want special treatment, special clubs, groups, grants and recognition as a group, but they dont want me to scrutinize them and hold them accountable as a group. In todays world amazingly enough they can have it both ways. Should I remain silent for fear of being labled a racist when I point out that EVERY GANG in Central Washington is Hispanic! I think its time to define a new term. How about Cultural Nazi. I can live with that. Us Cultural Nazis dont appreciate Mariachi music blasting us out of bed at 2:00 AM. We don’t care for high value placed on shinny car wheels while the house sits rotting in a weed filled lot driving surrounding property values down. We like to wonder if someone who doesnt know English will know what a “Stop” sign is, much less insurance. We get tired of looking for jobs only to see the words ” Bilingual Spanish Required” because hispanics arrive here daily with no skills and no desire to adapt to anything that might be labeled American Culture. We expect to be safe and secure in our homes and in our neighborhoods, again let me point you to crime statistics in Benton and Yakima County Washington. We get tired of watching the ER fill up at 5:00 with illegals while thinking back to blogs we read that say that illegals don’t cost anything. Silly me I thought the increasing number of hospital write-offs was being passed on to those with insurance and that in turn was the cause of rising premiums. We enjoy crying foul when hispanics in Yakima County made up the majority of DUI, Burglary, Theft, and Murder last year. Heck you can read it for yourself on a daily basis in just one small town if you fell the need.,,,
http://www.ci.sunnyside.wa.us/import/arrest.txt
(I’m sure that you will step in and cry foul, that names of offenders can not be used to determine if they are Hispanic. The rest of us with common sense know how to put 2 + 2 together.)
Is it too much for anyone to expect that any immigrant either legal or illegal consider themselves an American before any other nationality and to become a part of a community, not strip it clean like locust because they are too lazy to adjust and conform to the lifestyle that was in palce when they arrived? Heck they dont have too, plenty of my fellow americans welcoming them into my neighborhood but not their own. Liberals from afar. If I can put a dent in the Hispanic Culture by wanting to deport as many as I can then why shouldn’t I? Because the Hispanic Culture has given me and my neighbors such wonderful cultural additions like bruglary (victim twice now, both times by hispanics) and drive-by shootings. Real world experience will always shape opinions faster than your rare success stories that you spam our email boxes full of. Preach away about the bennefits of the illegal culture, my insurance agent and neighbors needs a good laugh.
PS. Tell me how MEChA is good for America. Can you say Azatlan? And tell my why a racist group such as them recieves federal dollars. Is Minority Racism the new accepted practice?
Cheers
Dr X says
And that’s all we need to hear from you to know that you’re a shameless bigot.
There is plenty of room for honest discussion and debate about the consequences of illegal immigration and what should be done about it. This post was not about illegal immigration.
The man who died was working legally, within the system. He is dead because of stupidity driven by bigotry and all you can see is an opportunity to vent the prejudice that breeds unchecked in your tiny mind. At least we can take comfort in knowing that character isn’t genetically transmitted. If you reproduce, your children still have a chance to be better people than you. With the bar set so low, I’d say that chances are excellent that they will be much better people than you.
Mark Draughn says
Geez, thanks Dr X.
I wasn’t prepared for my two-paragraph slam of ICE to receive a response that tries to make 57 different points. My brain was spinning from trying to figure out where to grab onto that one to frame a response.
Let me just add to this by pointing out that the man was named Hiu Lui Ng, which doesn’t sound Hispanic to me. And the woman in the earlier post of mine was from Iceland. Immigration and Customs Enforcement: Mistreatment Regardless of Race, Creed, or Color.
nonbigot says
Sorry guys but the article is right on point. The fact that we don’t want you here doesn’t mean that we aren’t bigots.
You hipanics want special treatment, yet overbreed and us taxpayers have to pay for it. That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. The fact that you are lagging behind in education (another fact oooooooo!), makes you seem childish in your replies mark and dr. x.
We educated deal in facts and statistics (not sure if you know what those are), not personal attacks. If you’d like me to share the U.S. Gov’t Census figures on hispanic overbreeding and population explosion, I’d be happy to provide the facts.
Oooops, providing facts might make me a “racist” I forgot.
Breeding tons of leafblowers and gangbangers will never make you come out on top. So goodluck with the selfhatred. You are neither Black (who have risen to power through adaptation and intelligence) nore White (the people you also hate but strangely are jealous of), so goodluck with that.
Cya down the line….haha.
Mark Draughn says
Actually, I’m a plain old middle-class white guy. I think Dr. X might be too, but I never bothered to find out.
I’m really glad that you “educated deal in facts and statistics.” Since I’m a computer programmer and Dr. X is a real doctor, I think we might even understand some facts and statistics. Too bad you didn’t bother to actually provide any.
Actually, I like your second sentence: “The fact that we don’t want you here doesn’t mean that we aren’t bigots.”
Yup. That sounds just about right.