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		By: Mark Draughn		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;The tactics are problematic too. Your examples of police luring a suspect outside rather than assaulting the house is an issue of tactics.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

True. However, when police are questioned about these tactics, they eventually claim that that dynamic entry is needed to preserve evidence.  Luring a mad bomber to the door may work, but---at least for now---I&#039;m willing to believe that the cops are right about it not working very well on organized drug crews.

In any case, I don&#039;t know enough about police work to confidently dispute the necessity of dynamic entry, given what police are trying to achieve. But I do feel comfortable asserting that whatever they&#039;re trying to do, it&#039;s not worth it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The tactics are problematic too. Your examples of police luring a suspect outside rather than assaulting the house is an issue of tactics.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>True. However, when police are questioned about these tactics, they eventually claim that that dynamic entry is needed to preserve evidence.  Luring a mad bomber to the door may work, but&#8212;at least for now&#8212;I&#8217;m willing to believe that the cops are right about it not working very well on organized drug crews.</p>
<p>In any case, I don&#8217;t know enough about police work to confidently dispute the necessity of dynamic entry, given what police are trying to achieve. But I do feel comfortable asserting that whatever they&#8217;re trying to do, it&#8217;s not worth it.</p>
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		By: Uncle Joe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;My objection is not about SWAT tactics, it&#039;s about the SWAT mission.&quot;

The tactics are problematic too. Your examples of police luring a suspect outside rather than assaulting the house is an issue of tactics.

&quot;They are pretty much trained to not shoot untill they see movement.&quot;

Assuming the kid is right -- shoot at anything that moves -- then that would be a pretty good reason not to use SWAT teams unless the goal was to kill everyone inside. Clearly the kid is wrong. Even though I think there is a serious concern about SWAT tactics and SWAT missions, it isn&#039;t THIS bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My objection is not about SWAT tactics, it&#8217;s about the SWAT mission.&#8221;</p>
<p>The tactics are problematic too. Your examples of police luring a suspect outside rather than assaulting the house is an issue of tactics.</p>
<p>&#8220;They are pretty much trained to not shoot untill they see movement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Assuming the kid is right &#8212; shoot at anything that moves &#8212; then that would be a pretty good reason not to use SWAT teams unless the goal was to kill everyone inside. Clearly the kid is wrong. Even though I think there is a serious concern about SWAT tactics and SWAT missions, it isn&#8217;t THIS bad.</p>
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		By: Omnibus Driver		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to agree with you, Mark.  I live two blocks from the cop shop in downtown Des Plaines, IL.  It&#039;s a nice, quiet area, as you are aware.  One Saturday morning this past summer I awoke to six SWAT team members in front of my building and four behind.  What for?  I&#039;m guessing my former downstairs neighbor went FTA on some minor drug dealing charge.  

Now, there were no doors broken down.  No weapons discharged.  However, there were high-powered weapons and tactical gear in abundance.  

Did I want the jerk out of the building?  You bet.  But was this overkill, to say the least.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you, Mark.  I live two blocks from the cop shop in downtown Des Plaines, IL.  It&#8217;s a nice, quiet area, as you are aware.  One Saturday morning this past summer I awoke to six SWAT team members in front of my building and four behind.  What for?  I&#8217;m guessing my former downstairs neighbor went FTA on some minor drug dealing charge.  </p>
<p>Now, there were no doors broken down.  No weapons discharged.  However, there were high-powered weapons and tactical gear in abundance.  </p>
<p>Did I want the jerk out of the building?  You bet.  But was this overkill, to say the least.</p>
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